Sunday, January 17, 2016

FS 3790/473 Loop - Seneca - Bear Valley 1/17/16

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Location: HWY 395, 6 mi south of Seneca, 2 miles west to 3790 jct. & up to 310 jct.

looking north, down, 310 rd from 3790 jct., with atv tracks


Road & Trail Conditions: 395 good; FS 37 & 3790 6-10" snow, truck tire deep ruts.
on return home, 395 had sections of standing water & slush.

Snow Conditions: 2+', crusty base where groomed or driven on, with 6-8" snow since grooming; 1+" new snow today, got mushy & sticky as day progressed. alternating flurries, moderate snow & wind, especially on ridge; then mixed snow & rain

Skis on & temperature: 10am 29° (JD 33°, CC 38° rain, Starr Ridge 34° flurries). used backcountry skis for accumulated snow over groomed. touring skis might have worked

Skis off & temperature: 4:30pm 36° ( 36° & rain all the way to CC, then 42° )

Distance: Google earth says 10 miles.  seemed much longer

Rating (1-10; 10 awesome): started as a 10, ended as a 6, snow became mixed sno & rain. surface became sticky & mushy

310 jct with 473 - looked like the groomed trail (did not check map)


Comments: started at 3790/310 jct. to ski downhill  310 to 472. mistakenly took 473 as it was plowed & groomed for 1.5 miles where it stopped.  broke deep (6" steps)  trail until it connected with 472; very hard work - 2+ miles (felt like 6).  i'd recommend staying on the groomed 472 from the 310 (the map doesn't show this rd - dashed line in map above - somewhere).  Dan, who groomed it, called it the 472.

all of these roads have had logging activity that looks to be on pause with the snow.  many stacks of felled trees waiting to be hauled out, 12' of snow on top.  some of these roads have been plowed & traveled because of this.

elevation profile


this is a lovely loop that would be more fun on a clear day (to see bear valley) and without sticky snow.  nice variety of land: up along a forested ridge, down to the border with bear valley pastures & in between.

along 473 rd


310 rd is a little steep; better to go down & then take 3790 back up to the ridge as it has a more gradual slope, still good work.

slope of the 3790 rd heading back to start


starting up the 472 toward 3790 jct


could also start from the beginning of 310 from seneca (take Shirttail creek/ camp creek rd from town).  unsure how far you can drive in.

473 bordering bear valley


this is the second trip to this area; i like it a lot. i'll be exploring this area more for other trail possibilities

i may be a seneca kid who grew up in kansas

Thursday, January 14, 2016

FS 37 rd, Camp Creek - Seneca - Bear Valley 1/14/16

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Location: HWY 395 6 mi south of Seneca, 2 miles west to 3790 jct.




Road & Trail Conditions: hwys clear.  37 plowed for 1.5 mi, packed snow; then 12", groomed with 1+" powder



Snow Conditions: absolutely lovely

Skis on & temperature: 11:15am 18° , mostly sunny (JD 31° cloudy)

Skis off & temperature: 2:15pm 31°, mostly cloudy, flurries starting with next snowstorm (JD 38°)

Distance: 9 miles

Rating (1-10; 10 awesome): 9.9

37 rd following camp creek








Comments: this felt like my own personal groomed trail.  no snowmobile tracks. powder over groomed.  gradual slope for first 1.5 mi., then basically flat following camp creek west.


this is the slope on the first 1.5 mi.  leave enough gas in the tank to get back up - not too bad.

explored 3790 rd north to 310& 702 jct. where plowing stopped & grooming continued.  when logging & plowing ceases (there are several large piles of cut trees waiting to haul out), this would be a lovely climb to the ridge & find a loop down to the 37 rd. & back.

3790 rd going north from 37 rd.

Road Updates Starr Ridge, 16 & 15 rds. -1/14/16

FS 4920 rd from Starr Ridge Campground  west is plowed for logging operations on the spurs going north:






The FS 333 rd. from Starr Ridge Sno Park has a nice set of cat tracks with powder on top, great access into a network of groomed trails in windfall creek area:



FS 16 Rd is plowed from Seneca to Prairie Summit.  Saw a set of ski tracks starting at the 1620 rd going north.

The FS 15 rd is plowed from the 16 jct thru Co. 65 to 395.

Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Groomed Trails - Starr Ridge 1/13/16


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from Glen Johnston:

Garret Carniglia took Cat #2 out from the Starr Snowpark and groomed the Windfall Creek Loop and in the Geary Creek area to Laycock Creek Road.

Groomed Trail - Seneca 1/12/16


01/12/2016 grooming report:  I cut off 310 at 472 it is a nice road not plowed. West to the end of 3790 . north on the237 to 235 and back east on 3790 to plowed road at the 710 and returned. Held it short today so I could fill the fuel all the way up,,, blue line.  DV


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Tuesday, January 12, 2016

Groomed Trails - Seneca 1/11/16

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from Glen Johnston:

> Cat #1 groomed from Seneca today, orange line on map.  The 310 road south from Seneca is plowed for logging (pink line on map) and logging activity is ongoing in the area.  The green line on the 24 road has also been plowed.  Snow is great, grooming went well.  This is the first day of grooming in this area.  Several more trails will be opened in this vicinity.

Groomed Trails - Starr Ridge 1/11/16

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from Glen Johnston:


>       Cat #2 groomed from the Starr Snowpark today, see the orange line.  Thanks Garret.
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